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    Mother board Gigabyte P55-UD5
    RAM 2x F3-16000CL9-2GBRH
    Processor : Intel Core i7 860

    Hello,

    I want to extend RAM but I cannot find anymore F3-16000CL9-2GBRH in any shop.
    Can I extend using : F3-16000CL9D-4GBRM ?
    Timings are slightly dirrefrent :
    9-9-9-27 for F3-16000CL9-2GBRH
    and
    9-10-9-28 for F3-16000CL9D-4GBRM

    What timing will MB affect to memory when I put both ?
    Last edited by pascal_bidouille; 06-02-2012, 01:28 PM.

  • #2
    or would it be just better to change it all to go to F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM for example ?

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    • #3
      You could try, but anytime you mix sticks from different packages, even of the same model it can be problematic - especially with high freq DRAM, sounds like you are looking to go to 8GB so with your mobo I'd suggest a single set of 4x2GB or (preferably) a 2x4GB set. If you OC at all (imagine you do since running 2000 sticks now) would suggest a 2x4GB 2133 set like the SnipersF3-17000CL9D-8GBSR or Ripjaws X F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM, there's also others available


      Pls offer comments on support I provide, HERE, in order to help me do a better job here:

      Tman

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      • #4
        ram extension F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM on P55-UD5 : problem

        Hello,

        Following your advice I got some F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM.
        Tried them on my system (replacing my old one).
        Result : blue screen and reboot each time I try to start windows.
        I checked bios settings :
        I can see 2 XMP profiles :
        Profile 1 : 2004 MHz
        Profile 2 : 2136 MHz
        Tried both without any luck.

        Even windows safe mode starts but fails quickly when I try to run any tool.

        Any Idea ?

        Thanks
        Last edited by pascal_bidouille; 06-02-2012, 01:28 PM.

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        • #5
          I forgot I have bios version is F11b (can be usefull)

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          • #6
            Looks like they updated the beta BIOS to F11C, might try that w/ XMP


            Pls offer comments on support I provide, HERE, in order to help me do a better job here:

            Tman

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            • #7
              Hi,
              I just tried it loaded F11C and for sure with XMP.
              Same result.

              I also did a memory test with memtest86 booted on USB.
              Test runs without error.

              I have win 7 and dual boot win8 consumer preview.
              When I start on win7 : I get failure more or less when desktop start to appear.
              Wehn I start on win8 : I can get to desktop, start a few application (like two browser before it fail.
              Seems like the problem appears when memory fills a bit over 1Gb.
              Bad luck I don't have any more linux to try...

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              • #8
                Also, just for test I tired with only one RAM module (thus only 4Gb)
                Same result

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                • #9
                  P55-UD5 and F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM

                  One more tests : boot on ubuntu (on USB) :
                  No any better, PC get stuck before unbuntu finish to load.
                  (for sure I tried my usb with ubuntu with original memory : woks fine...

                  Conclusion : I do not have a clue :
                  As it doeas not work with Win7, WIn8 and Ubuntu I would tend to exclude any driver problem.
                  As memtest does not find any problem I would think it proves memory works fine on my motherboard.

                  Any idea ?
                  Last edited by pascal_bidouille; 06-02-2012, 01:26 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Might try at 1600 just as a test....then we can go up from there...Also what type of OC do you have on the CPU, since an OC will be required to run at spec


                    Pls offer comments on support I provide, HERE, in order to help me do a better job here:

                    Tman

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                    • #11
                      HI,

                      I tried with memory multiplier x10 so speed 1670. result NOK
                      No OC at the moment, came back to default (almost).

                      Here is a small extract of my conf (with my original memory) :

                      Intel Core i7 860
                      Cores 4
                      Threads 8
                      Name Intel Core i7 860
                      Code Name Lynnfield
                      Package Socket 1156 LGA
                      Technology 45nm
                      Specification Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 860 @ 2.80GHz
                      Family 6
                      Extended Family 6
                      Model E
                      Extended Model 1E
                      Stepping 5
                      Revision B1
                      Instructions MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, EM64T
                      Bus Speed 167.1 MHz
                      Rated Bus Speed 3006.9 MHz
                      Stock Core Speed 2800 MHz
                      Stock Bus Speed 133 MHz
                      Average Temperature 35 ?C
                      Caches
                      L1 Data Cache Size 4 x 32 KBytes
                      L1 Instructions Cache Size 4 x 32 KBytes
                      L2 Unified Cache Size 4 x 256 KBytes
                      L3 Unified Cache Size 8192 KBytes
                      Core 0
                      Core Speed 2839.7 MHz
                      Multiplier x 17.0
                      Bus Speed 167.1 MHz
                      Rated Bus Speed 3006.9 MHz
                      Temperature 36 ?C
                      Thread 1
                      APIC ID 0
                      Thread 2
                      APIC ID 1
                      Core 1
                      Core Speed 2839.7 MHz
                      Multiplier x 17.0
                      Bus Speed 167.1 MHz
                      Rated Bus Speed 3006.9 MHz
                      Temperature 35 ?C
                      Thread 1
                      APIC ID 2
                      Thread 2
                      APIC ID 3
                      Core 2
                      Core Speed 2839.7 MHz
                      Multiplier x 17.0
                      Bus Speed 167.1 MHz
                      Rated Bus Speed 3006.9 MHz
                      Temperature 36 ?C
                      Thread 1
                      APIC ID 4
                      Thread 2
                      APIC ID 5
                      Core 3
                      Core Speed 2839.7 MHz
                      Multiplier x 17.0
                      Bus Speed 167.1 MHz
                      Rated Bus Speed 3006.9 MHz
                      Temperature 34 ?C
                      Thread 1
                      APIC ID 6
                      Thread 2
                      APIC ID 7
                      RAM
                      Memory slots
                      Total memory slots 4
                      Used memory slots 2
                      Free memory slots 2
                      Memory
                      Type DDR3
                      Size 4096 MBytes
                      Channels # Dual
                      DRAM Frequency 1002.3 MHz
                      CAS# Latency (CL) 9 clocks
                      RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 9 clocks
                      RAS# Precharge (tRP) 9 clocks
                      Cycle Time (tRAS) 27 clocks
                      Command Rate (CR) 2T
                      Last edited by pascal_bidouille; 06-02-2012, 11:04 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Any idea ?

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                        • #13
                          What does XMP set the sticks to? Should be 9-11-10-28 2T 1.65. At 1600 can try 8-8-8-24 or possibly 7-8-7-24 prob down to 1.6 or 1.55


                          Pls offer comments on support I provide, HERE, in order to help me do a better job here:

                          Tman

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                          • #14
                            yes with XMP I have 9-11-10-28 2T at 1.65

                            At 1600 I think I had 8-8-8-24 at 1.5

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                            • #15
                              1600 ok

                              Hi,

                              I got it to work at 1600 :
                              Type DDR3
                              Size 8192 MBytes
                              Channels # Dual
                              DRAM Frequency 799.4 MHz
                              CAS# Latency (CL) 11 clocks
                              RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 11 clocks
                              RAS# Precharge (tRP) 11 clocks
                              Cycle Time (tRAS) 28 clocks
                              Command Rate (CR) 1T
                              Type DDR3
                              Size 4096 MBytes
                              Manufacturer G.Skill
                              Max Bandwidth PC3-12800 (800 MHz)
                              Part Number F3-17000CL9-4GBXM
                              SPD Ext. EPP

                              Not quite sure what I changed from previous tests as in both case timing are defaults.
                              (so I was wrong in saying 8-8-8 in prev post, that's in fact why I checked tonight)

                              HAve to make it go faster now ...

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