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  • Asrock X79 Extreme9 vs. G.Skill TridentX DDR3-2400 16GB

    All good afternoon! A week ago I became the happy owner of the Asrock X79 Extreme9 motherboard and a set of memory of G.Skill TridentX DDR3-2400 16GB. The thought on compatibility has come after the order, has casually seen somewhere on the Internet. Generally configuration following: Asrock X79 Extreme9, i7 3930K C2, G.Skill TridentX DDR3-2400 16GB and Zalman CNPS12X; having collected system and having connected everything I has received the following: http://imageshack.us/f/812/33021893.png/ and http://imageshack.us/f/163/120929150318.png/ - having read various forums, I have understood that for start by default everything is normal, here so memory was defined in uefi http://imageshack.us/f/824/120929150343.png/, but it would be desirable to receive if not the maximum frequency of memory then close of those that is specified in CPU-Z or here http://imageshack.us/f/607/120929150433.png/.
    My first attempts with running start to deliver to XMP 1 or XMP 2 have led to that the system has ceased to be started in general. In attempt to expose frequency of memory in manual http://imageshack.us/f/607/120929150433.png/ the same, refusal to be started. Looking through your forum I has understood later that settings exposed by default http://imageshack.us/f/521/120929150442.png/ and http://imageshack.us/f/696/120929150504.png/, and it is possible and http://imageshack.us/f/268/120929150450.png/, do not promote normal start of memory and system as a whole.
    Has found instructions for Asus but that for Asrock X79 Extreme9 and similar it is rumpled; took proceeding from that that the system had some margin of safety, for the next 3-4 years.
    Whether and still such question at dispersal of memory it is necessary to drive the processor or not and if yes, that as is correct, Asus Striker Extreme before used, but has come to change time a platform as has become outdated and does not pull.
    If it will be not difficult to you or there is a possibility make the detailed instruction as well as that it is correct to adjust, very much I am afraid to spoil the equipment, on how many change of settings in general is safe for the motherboard and memory. It would be desirable to receive result not that that by default 1600, and at least 2000 or 2133, well as a last resort 1866.
    I hope for your understanding and ingenuity, transfer machine and it is executed in the PROMT 9 program as I live in Russia and with English badly a sign. For one it will be possible will check compatibility of this set of memory with X79.
    If you will not complicate explain as correctly to include a XMP profile in Bios that everything worked. That the system would start and was stable. And if that is possible with screenshots, for descriptive reasons.
    Last edited by XORROR; 09-30-2012, 03:46 AM.

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    Like many of their mobos, ASRock is slow to jump on getting things ready for 2400 sticks and implementing XMP. First thing would be to check and make sure you have the latest BIOS, 2.3, can be found here:

    http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.as...X79%20Extreme9

    and give that a try, if no joy, might want to try with a manual setup: To do that, let's start with setting CPU multiplier to 40, DRAM base timings to 10-12-12-31, CR (Command Rate) at 2T, DRAM Voltage at 1.65, VTT Voltage at 1.18, VCCSA at 1.2, then head for your DRAM Timing Control Page and try tRFC 178, tWR 16, tWTR 8, tRRD 7, tRTP 8, tFAW 26, tWCL 9

    This will be a test to see if it will run at these settings, if so we will try and drop voltages a bit to maintain stability


    Pls offer comments on support I provide, HERE, in order to help me do a better job here:

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    • #3
      Dear Tradesman, uefi of the last version (R 2.30), I wrote to Asrock technical support, but the answer still is not present. (((I not absolutely understood, concerning frequency of memory and the XMP profiles - them 2 what of them that means? And whether I secondly should change frequency of memory as shown here http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...929150433.png/ or expose any of XMP as here http://imageshack.us/f/231/120929150425.png/ - they are correctly displayed in CPU-Z or not? or frequency of memory while not to touch at all it is simple to make the settings specified by you? On how many it is safe for the equipment (the motherboard and memory)?
      Whether there is any program to see all properties and settings of memory of the Mem TweakIt type - only that worked not only with Asus?
      Thanks a lot for councils since morning I will surely test and I will unsubscribe))).
      Last edited by XORROR; 09-30-2012, 12:19 PM.

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      • #4
        If you currently have XMP enabled that's fine, just check what these items are at and change where needed to what I indicated - i.e. your base timings should already be 10-12-12-31 so no need to change those. Primarily I am looking to make adjustments to voltages and the advanced timings along with a slight OC which is required to run the sticks at 2400....If these settings fail to boot, try with all the same except manually change the DRAM freq to 2133. And yes all is safe


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        Tman

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        • #5
          At me one more question on a screenshot http://imageshack.us/f/715/346346.png/ in brackets is specified a voltage the memory controler? what is it from everything is lower listed, vccsa is possible?

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          • #6
            The 1.65 is prob the DRAM Voltage - not sure of the other (may be min setting)


            Pls offer comments on support I provide, HERE, in order to help me do a better job here:

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            • #7
              Dear Tradesman, tried to make today settings according to the instruction, was convinced that if to expose a XMP profile, the system stably refuses to start, therefore memory put in manual, here that turned out as a result:
              1) http://imageshack.us/f/35/121001143309.png/
              2) http://imageshack.us/f/411/121001143318.png/
              3) http://imageshack.us/f/525/121001143325.png/
              4) http://imageshack.us/f/59/121001143357.png/ - at VTT Voltage at 1.18 it refused to be restarted-> increased
              5) http://imageshack.us/f/20/121001143300.png/ - here that received as a result
              6) http://imageshack.us/f/266/121001143340.png/ - whether it is necessary to adjust these parameters?
              However thus that the system stably rebooted and started before Windows loading business did not reach, what it is possible to try still? Can increase still VTT Voltage and VCCSA, or to try to increase to (reduce) any one of parameters?
              P.S. surely look at screenshots.)))

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              • #8
                Will get back shortly have to run to an appointment


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                • #9
                  Good evening to you Tradesman, here settings with which was possible to start Windows and memory on frequency 2400:
                  1) http://imageshack.us/f/43/121002032845.png/
                  2) http://imageshack.us/f/189/121002032929.png/
                  3) http://imageshack.us/f/221/121002032828.png/
                  4) http://imageshack.us/f/826/66301211.jpg/
                  5) http://imageshack.us/f/138/99362300.jpg/
                  unfortunately the system has appeared very much not stable and as soon as I have tried to create cargo, within several seconds has received system falling in BSOD (((.
                  I any more do not know that it is possible to try to tighten up. With a XMP profile the system stably is not started.
                  The International Federation of Journalists any role plays CPU Load-Line Calibration Level 5, can be Level 4 or 3 is necessary? look at screens of UEFI (BIOS) something can be not truly specified in parametres?

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                  • #10
                    Let's try adjusting
                    Image 1:

                    Turbo 4.2
                    Max Ratio 4.2
                    Internal PLL Overvoltage Enabled
                    Long Duration power limit 500
                    Long duration Maintained 2

                    Image 2:

                    CPU COre voltage - offset
                    Offset amount + 0.07
                    Dram Voltage 1.67
                    CPU PLL 1.78

                    and kick tRFC in advanced timings to 194


                    Pls offer comments on support I provide, HERE, in order to help me do a better job here:

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                    • #11
                      Good evening Tradesman, I have one more question: memory contains 2 XMP profiles - it is possible to learn than they differ? If in uefi they are defined lonely, and in CPU-Z it is not correct, what is that so to speak? In what also that it gives difference?; still there is no answer of that XMP is not loaded, from technical support Asrock.

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                      • #12
                        I have a feeling the BIOS is looking for a second Profile and not finding it, so it tries to duplicate the only one there. Since XMP ver 1.3 came out, many sets of sticks come preloaded with a XMP 1.2 and a 1.3 version of settings, which isn't applicable here as none of the Gen 2 or earlier CPUs can run 2400 (stock anyway), only the latest Gen 3 CPUs like the 3570K, 3770K, etc


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                        • #13
                          Those i7 3930K it is Gen2 and it does not support profiles established for memories is not dependent on Bios versions, unlike i7 3770K Gen3? I have correctly understood you? But go on frequency 2400 with it (Gen2) all of them can without XMP?

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                          • #14
                            The X79 and your CPU are those that introduced XMP 1.3, there are some 2nd Gen CPUs like the 26 and 2700K that can push 2400 in small amounts and generally with a loose CL, however you would want the latest upgraded BIOS in most cases


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                            • #15
                              Good evening dear Tradesman, checked memory with your last settings, it seems goes not badly, even in the small father-in-law took not the last place, it seems everything is stable, but there is one small but!; in attempt to reboot the car regularly there are failures and it refusal to be restarted, starts to start and right there goes out, as-budo a food does not suffice on start. Here screens:
                              1) http://imageshack.us/f/827/121005160955.png/
                              2) http://imageshack.us/f/690/121005161012.png/
                              3) http://imageshack.us/f/513/121005161020.png/
                              4) http://imageshack.us/f/607/121005161004.png/
                              5) http://imageshack.us/f/822/121005160944n.png/
                              6) http://imageshack.us/f/69/76563663.jpg/
                              But as there was everything perfectly goes for the speed 1866, all settings were exposed automatically and everything completely compatibly and perfectly works))), here screens:
                              1) http://imageshack.us/f/822/121006161309.png/
                              2) http://imageshack.us/f/221/121006161325.png/
                              3) http://imageshack.us/f/513/121006161417.png/
                              4) http://imageshack.us/f/191/22486247.jpg/
                              UEFI for the present is visible is not finished to be up to the end compatible to memory on such speed and memory in itself so turns out is perfectly compatible to X79, even it is not necessary to drive the processor in order that everything worked stably.)))
                              I will try one of these days as itself the system will lead if to put frequency 2133. Then I will unsubscribe.)))

                              It is possible still a question: than memory made for X79 from 1155 differs?
                              Last edited by XORROR; 10-06-2012, 06:55 AM.

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