F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK on Asus Rampage Formula

[nano0305]

Hi, I recently got this RAM and it's working great, but i can't get it to work at 1066, only at 800. I only changed two parameters in the BIOS, i set it manually to 1066 and put it to work at 2.1V. When the PC posts, it shouws DDR2 1066 dual channel ... but CPU-Z keeps telling me its a 6400 ram working at 400mhz. What should I do?
Thanks for your help
Regards
Juan Ignacio

[Tradesman]

CPU-Z doesn't always read the RAM right, might try Everest. What shows in the BIOS is what you should be running at.

[nano0305]

Thanks for your response. I tried Everest and this is what it shows.
[ DIMM1: G Skill F2-8500CL5-2GBPK ]

Memory Module Properties:
Module Name G Skill F2-8500CL5-2GBPK
Serial Number None
Module Size 2 GB (2 ranks, 8 banks)
Module Type Unbuffered DIMM
Memory Type DDR2 SDRAM
Memory Speed DDR2-800 (400 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 1.8
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh

Memory Timings:
@ 400 MHz 5-5-5-15 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 24-51-3-6-3-3 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 266 MHz 4-4-4-10 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 16-34-2-4-2-2 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)

Enhanced Performance Profile:
Profile Name High Performance
Optimal Performance Profile Yes
Memory Speed DDR2-1066 (533 MHz)
Voltage 2.1 V
Memory Timings 5-5-5-15 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Row Cycle Time (tRC) 48T
Command Rate (CR) 2T
Write Recovery Time (tWR) 13T

Memory Module Features:
Analysis Probe Not Present
FET Switch External Disabled
Weak Driver Supported

Memory Module Manufacturer:
Company Name G.Skill International Enterprise
Product Information http://www.gskill.com/products.php

[ DIMM3: G Skill F2-8500CL5-2GBPK ]

Memory Module Properties:
Module Name G Skill F2-8500CL5-2GBPK
Serial Number None
Module Size 2 GB (2 ranks, 8 banks)
Module Type Unbuffered DIMM
Memory Type DDR2 SDRAM
Memory Speed DDR2-800 (400 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 1.8
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh

Memory Timings:
@ 400 MHz 5-5-5-15 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 24-51-3-6-3-3 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 266 MHz 4-4-4-10 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 16-34-2-4-2-2 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)

Enhanced Performance Profile:
Profile Name High Performance
Optimal Performance Profile Yes
Memory Speed DDR2-1066 (533 MHz)
Voltage 2.1 V
Memory Timings 5-5-5-15 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Row Cycle Time (tRC) 48T
Command Rate (CR) 2T
Write Recovery Time (tWR) 13T

Memory Module Features:
Analysis Probe Not Present
FET Switch External Disabled
Weak Driver Supported

Memory Module Manufacturer:
Company Name G.Skill International Enterprise
Product Information http://www.gskill.com/products.php

It shows exactly the same for the other module. Is the memory configured properly and cpu-z and everest is showing it wrong? or is it indeed working at 800mhz instead of 1066mhz?
Thanks in advance

[genetix]

that actually doesn't show anything how it's configured.. Try 'Motherboard'->'Chipset'-page would show latencies & on 'Computer'->'sensor' you'll get actual voltage. As for memory itself looks to be reading correctly it's SPD(Profiles Inside Chip).

[nano0305]

ok, heres the 'Motherboard'->'Chipset' Report
--------[ Chipset ]--------------------------------------------------------------------------

[ North Bridge: Intel Beachwood X48 ]

North Bridge Properties:
North Bridge Intel Beachwood X48
Supported FSB Speeds FSB800, FSB1066, FSB1333, FSB1600
Supported Memory Types DDR2-667 SDRAM, DDR2-800 SDRAM, DDR3-800 SDRAM, DDR3-1066 SDRAM, DDR3-1333 SDRAM
Maximum Memory Amount 8 GB
Revision / Stepping 01 / A1
Package Type 1300 Pin FC-BGA
Package Size 4.0 cm x 4.0 cm
Core Voltage 1.25 V
In-Order Queue Depth 12

Memory Controller:
Type Dual Channel (128-bit)
Active Mode Dual Channel (128-bit)

Memory Timings:
CAS Latency (CL) 5T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 5T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 5T
RAS Active Time (tRAS) 15T
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 52T
Command Rate (CR) 2T
RAS To RAS Delay (tRRD) 3T
Write Recovery Time (tWR) 14T
Read To Read Delay (tRTR) Same Rank: 4T, Different Rank: 6T
Read To Write Delay (tRTW) 8T
Write To Read Delay (tWTR) Same Rank: 11T, Different Rank: 5T
Write To Write Delay (tWTW) Same Rank: 4T, Different Rank: 6T
Read To Precharge Delay (tRTP) 5T
Write To Precharge Delay (tWTP) 14T
Precharge To Precharge Delay (tPTP) 1T
Refresh Period (tREF) 3120T
DRAM Read ODT 3T
DRAM Write ODT 6T
MCH Read ODT 8T
Performance Level 9
Read Delay Phase Adjust Neutral
DIMM1 Clock Fine Delay 4T
DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay 3T
DIMM3 Clock Fine Delay 4T
DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay 3T

Error Correction:
ECC Supported, Disabled
ChipKill ECC Not Supported
RAID Not Supported
ECC Scrubbing Not Supported

Memory Slots:
DRAM Slot #1 2 GB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #2 2 GB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)

PCI Express Controller:
PCI-E 2.0 x16 port #2 In Use @ x16 (XFX GeForce 8800 GS 384MB Video Adapter)

Chipset Manufacturer:
Company Name Intel Corporation
Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets
Driver Download http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets
BIOS Upgrades http://www.esupport.com/biosagent/in...m?refererid=40
Driver Update http://driveragent.com?ref=59

[ South Bridge: Intel 82801IR ICH9R ]

South Bridge Properties:
South Bridge Intel 82801IR ICH9R
Revision / Stepping 92 / A2
Package Type 676 Pin mBGA
Package Size 3.1 cm x 3.1 cm
Core Voltage 1.05 V

High Definition Audio:
Codec Name Analog Devices AD1988B
Codec ID 11D4198Bh / 1043829Ch
Codec Revision 00100300h
Codec Type Audio
Supported Sound Formats 8 kHz, 11 kHz, 16 kHz, 22 kHz, 32 kHz, 44 kHz, 48 kHz, 88 kHz, 96 kHz, 176 kHz, 192 kHz, 16-bit, 20-bit, 24-bit

PCI Express Controller:
PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #1 Empty
PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #3 In Use @ x1 (Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller)
PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #5 In Use @ x1 (JMicron JMB368 SATA-II RAID Controller)
PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #6 In Use @ x1 (Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller)

and heres the 'Computer'->'sensor' Report

--------[ Sensor ]-------------------------------------------------------------

Sensor Properties:
Sensor Type W83627DHG + W83791D + ADT7475 + ADP3228 (ISA 290h, SMB 2Ch/2Eh/20h)
GPU Sensor Type Analog Devices ADT7473 (NV-I2C 2Eh)
Motherboard Name Asus Maximus Formula / Rampage Formula
Chassis Intrusion Detected No

Temperatures:
Motherboard 36 ?C (97 ?F)
CPU 23 ?C (73 ?F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 43 ?C (109 ?F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 43 ?C (109 ?F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 44 ?C (111 ?F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 47 ?C (117 ?F)
North Bridge 47 ?C (117 ?F)
South Bridge 49 ?C (120 ?F)
GPU 53 ?C (127 ?F)
GPU Memory 45 ?C (113 ?F)
GPU Ambient 39 ?C (102 ?F)
Seagate ST31000333AS 40 ?C (104 ?F)
WDC WD3200JS-00PDB0 42 ?C (108 ?F)

Cooling Fans:
CPU 2033 RPM
Chassis #1 1455 RPM
GPU 30%

Voltage Values:
CPU Core 1.12 V
+3.3 V 3.22 V
+5 V 5.04 V
+12 V 12.10 V
+5 V Standby 4.90 V
FSB VTT 1.17 V
North Bridge Core 1.33 V
South Bridge Core 1.06 V
South Bridge PLL 1.52 V
DIMM 2.13 V
DIMM VTT 1.06 V
GPU Vcc 3.24 V

Current Values:
CPU 8.28 A

Power Values:
CPU 8.51 W
Debug Info F FF A6 3A / FF FF
Debug Info T 36 23 249 / 255
Debug Info V 8C D8 CA C9 D2 D2 D0 (03)
Debug Info I C1 A023

[genetix]

Your NB is way too low. 1.33 won't even be enough on stock not to even speak of 1066Mhz. Needs to be around 1.440v at least. (that's 1.39v on BIOS). Suggest (1.43v to BIOS) that's 1.488v(actual), if that lower doesn't boot. I'm using same board and OC'ing like hell NB at 1.520v, anyway, those values earlier mentioned should do just fine considering it ain't 1:1 or 4:3 or anything like that.

Could need more information still to what clocks are ya planning of running this. Since OC'd system needs hell a lot of changes there, but all in all with stock multipliers 1066Mhz that might just do it.

[nano0305]

Thanks for your reply genetix. I changed the NB value from 1.33 to 1.43 in BIOS as you told me but everest continues to show the ram as 800mhz. I don't inted to OC since i don't know how to do it without messing up my machine. I just want the 1066 memory i bought to work at 1066 and not at 800mhz as its working now. I would be happy if i just get them to work at 1066.
here's what everest shows on Chipset now.
[ North Bridge: Intel Beachwood X48 ]

North Bridge Properties:
North Bridge Intel Beachwood X48
Supported FSB Speeds FSB800, FSB1066, FSB1333, FSB1600
Supported Memory Types DDR2-667 SDRAM, DDR2-800 SDRAM, DDR3-800 SDRAM, DDR3-1066 SDRAM, DDR3-1333 SDRAM
Maximum Memory Amount 8 GB
Revision / Stepping 01 / A1
Package Type 1300 Pin FC-BGA
Package Size 4.0 cm x 4.0 cm
Core Voltage 1.25 V
In-Order Queue Depth 12

Memory Controller:
Type Dual Channel (128-bit)
Active Mode Dual Channel (128-bit)

Memory Timings:
CAS Latency (CL) 5T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 5T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 5T
RAS Active Time (tRAS) 15T
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 52T
Command Rate (CR) 2T
RAS To RAS Delay (tRRD) 3T
Write Recovery Time (tWR) 14T
Read To Read Delay (tRTR) Same Rank: 4T, Different Rank: 6T
Read To Write Delay (tRTW) 8T
Write To Read Delay (tWTR) Same Rank: 11T, Different Rank: 5T
Write To Write Delay (tWTW) Same Rank: 4T, Different Rank: 6T
Read To Precharge Delay (tRTP) 5T
Write To Precharge Delay (tWTP) 14T
Precharge To Precharge Delay (tPTP) 1T
Refresh Period (tREF) 3120T
DRAM Read ODT 3T
DRAM Write ODT 6T
MCH Read ODT 8T
Performance Level 9
Read Delay Phase Adjust Neutral
DIMM1 Clock Fine Delay 5T
DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay 3T
DIMM3 Clock Fine Delay 5T
DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay 3T

Error Correction:
ECC Supported, Disabled
ChipKill ECC Not Supported
RAID Not Supported
ECC Scrubbing Not Supported

Memory Slots:
DRAM Slot #1 2 GB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #2 2 GB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)

PCI Express Controller:
PCI-E 2.0 x16 port #2 In Use @ x16 (XFX GeForce 8800 GS 384MB Video Adapter)

Chipset Manufacturer:
Company Name Intel Corporation
Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets
Driver Download http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets
BIOS Upgrades http://www.esupport.com/biosagent/in...m?refererid=40
Driver Update http://driveragent.com?ref=59

[ South Bridge: Intel 82801IR ICH9R ]

South Bridge Properties:
South Bridge Intel 82801IR ICH9R
Revision / Stepping 92 / A2
Package Type 676 Pin mBGA
Package Size 3.1 cm x 3.1 cm
Core Voltage 1.05 V

High Definition Audio:
Codec Name Analog Devices AD1988B
Codec ID 11D4198Bh / 1043829Ch
Codec Revision 00100300h
Codec Type Audio
Supported Sound Formats 8 kHz, 11 kHz, 16 kHz, 22 kHz, 32 kHz, 44 kHz, 48 kHz, 88 kHz, 96 kHz, 176 kHz, 192 kHz, 16-bit, 20-bit, 24-bit

PCI Express Controller:
PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #1 Empty
PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #3 In Use @ x1 (Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller)
PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #5 In Use @ x1 (JMicron JMB368 SATA-II RAID Controller)
PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #6 In Use @ x1 (Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller)

Chipset Manufacturer:
Company Name Intel Corporation
Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets
Driver Download http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets
BIOS Upgrades http://www.esupport.com/biosagent/in...m?refererid=40
Driver Update http://driveragent.com?ref=59

and here's what sensor shows

Sensor Properties:
Sensor Type W83627DHG + W83791D + ADT7475 + ADP3228 (ISA 290h, SMB 2Ch/2Eh/20h)
GPU Sensor Type Analog Devices ADT7473 (NV-I2C 2Eh)
Motherboard Name Asus Maximus Formula / Rampage Formula
Chassis Intrusion Detected No

Temperatures:
Motherboard 37 ?C (99 ?F)
CPU 23 ?C (73 ?F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 44 ?C (111 ?F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 44 ?C (111 ?F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 44 ?C (111 ?F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 48 ?C (118 ?F)
North Bridge 51 ?C (124 ?F)
South Bridge 51 ?C (124 ?F)
GPU 54 ?C (129 ?F)
GPU Memory 46 ?C (115 ?F)
GPU Ambient 40 ?C (104 ?F)
Seagate ST31000333AS 40 ?C (104 ?F)
WDC WD3200JS-00PDB0 40 ?C (104 ?F)

Cooling Fans:
CPU 2071 RPM
Chassis #1 1467 RPM
GPU 30%

Voltage Values:
CPU Core 1.12 V
+3.3 V 3.23 V
+5 V 5.04 V
+12 V 12.10 V
+5 V Standby 4.90 V
FSB VTT 1.17 V
North Bridge Core 1.42 V
South Bridge Core 1.06 V
South Bridge PLL 1.52 V
DIMM 2.13 V
DIMM VTT 1.06 V
GPU Vcc 3.24 V

Current Values:
CPU 7.89 A

Power Values:
CPU 7.98 W
Debug Info F FF A3 73 / FF FF
Debug Info T 37 23 249 / 255
Debug Info V 8C D8 CA CA D3 D2 D0 (03)
Debug Info I C1 A023

what other changes should I make in order to make it work at 1066? if theres any other report i could show you to help see the changes i should make, please tell me so and i will gladly post them here.
thanks a lot genetix

[Tradesman]

This latest shows tRFC at 52, would want 64 or so, and do have the timings and speed set manually in the BIOS?

[nano0305]

ok, i changed the tRFC value to 65 and all of the timings are manually set now that i had to enter the tRFC manually, but they are still 5 5 5 15 as they were when it was on auto.
anything else i should change? everest still showing it as 800mhz ram

[ North Bridge: Intel Beachwood X48 ]

North Bridge Properties:
North Bridge Intel Beachwood X48
Supported FSB Speeds FSB800, FSB1066, FSB1333, FSB1600
Supported Memory Types DDR2-667 SDRAM, DDR2-800 SDRAM, DDR3-800 SDRAM, DDR3-1066 SDRAM, DDR3-1333 SDRAM
Maximum Memory Amount 8 GB
Revision / Stepping 01 / A1
Package Type 1300 Pin FC-BGA
Package Size 4.0 cm x 4.0 cm
Core Voltage 1.25 V
In-Order Queue Depth 12

Memory Controller:
Type Dual Channel (128-bit)
Active Mode Dual Channel (128-bit)

Memory Timings:
CAS Latency (CL) 5T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 5T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 5T
RAS Active Time (tRAS) 15T
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 65T
Command Rate (CR) 2T
RAS To RAS Delay (tRRD) 3T
Write Recovery Time (tWR) 14T
Read To Read Delay (tRTR) Same Rank: 4T, Different Rank: 6T
Read To Write Delay (tRTW) 8T
Write To Read Delay (tWTR) Same Rank: 11T, Different Rank: 5T
Write To Write Delay (tWTW) Same Rank: 4T, Different Rank: 6T
Read To Precharge Delay (tRTP) 5T
Write To Precharge Delay (tWTP) 14T
Precharge To Precharge Delay (tPTP) 1T
Refresh Period (tREF) 3120T
DRAM Read ODT 3T
DRAM Write ODT 6T
MCH Read ODT 8T
Performance Level 9
Read Delay Phase Adjust Neutral
DIMM1 Clock Fine Delay 5T
DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay 4T
DIMM3 Clock Fine Delay 5T
DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay 4T

Error Correction:
ECC Supported, Disabled
ChipKill ECC Not Supported
RAID Not Supported
ECC Scrubbing Not Supported

Memory Slots:
DRAM Slot #1 2 GB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #2 2 GB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)

PCI Express Controller:
PCI-E 2.0 x16 port #2 In Use @ x16 (XFX GeForce 8800 GS 384MB Video Adapter)

Chipset Manufacturer:
Company Name Intel Corporation
Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets
Driver Download http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets
BIOS Upgrades http://www.esupport.com/biosagent/in...m?refererid=40
Driver Update http://driveragent.com?ref=59

[ South Bridge: Intel 82801IR ICH9R ]

South Bridge Properties:
South Bridge Intel 82801IR ICH9R
Revision / Stepping 92 / A2
Package Type 676 Pin mBGA
Package Size 3.1 cm x 3.1 cm
Core Voltage 1.05 V

High Definition Audio:
Codec Name Analog Devices AD1988B
Codec ID 11D4198Bh / 1043829Ch
Codec Revision 00100300h
Codec Type Audio
Supported Sound Formats 8 kHz, 11 kHz, 16 kHz, 22 kHz, 32 kHz, 44 kHz, 48 kHz, 88 kHz, 96 kHz, 176 kHz, 192 kHz, 16-bit, 20-bit, 24-bit

PCI Express Controller:
PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #1 Empty
PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #3 In Use @ x1 (Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller)
PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #5 In Use @ x1 (JMicron JMB368 SATA-II RAID Controller)
PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #6 In Use @ x1 (Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller)

Chipset Manufacturer:
Company Name Intel Corporation
Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets
Driver Download http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets
BIOS Upgrades http://www.esupport.com/biosagent/in...m?refererid=40
Driver Update http://driveragent.com?ref=59

[genetix]

Change the DRAM speed in BIOS to 1066Mhz would do might be that NB needs to be even higher for being stable at those speeds.

tRD / Performance Level / (Compination of Static Read & Ai): This determs your speed! I suggest you manually switch 'Static Read Control 'Enabled' and leave boosters etc etc as 'Auto' below that would make best of this board (however, this might cause as it's too low sometimes an issue on 1066Mhz).

add:
tRCD to 6T
tRP to 6T
tRRD to 4T

This should enable you to go to 1066Mhz, but it ain't nessessary stable with even as high as 1.42v NB. I needed more as I said, but I am not running stock clocks so that might do this setup.

This is one trick how you can POST this as 5-5-5-15 and absolute maximum the only problem is it won't be stable but you can save your current process as profile and try:
1. Load BIOS defaults 2. Reboot 3. check over clocking as 'manual' and Leave everything else in 'Auto' except Command Rate 2T and memory speed 1066Mhz, Correlate voltages to DRAM: 2.10v in BIOS (this is very solid 2.208v actual which is still just fine long way to limits), NB: 1.47-1.49v in BIOS (this is 1.520-1.536v actual this will heat up but with usual middle fan and basic config it'll be around ~45c NB) & add basics RAID etc etc etc setups you need for your system. 4. Reboot

^ Now that will POST in any occasion it sets the all the values pretty well, tWR, tRFC's etc etc needed except tRRD. However, this is very unstable configuration at least as far I tested, but IF it would for some reason be stable it would sure be fastest setup you can possibly do.

-edit #1-

Just for the kicks gonna try this tomorrow on my Maximus. See how it goes. Although, I'm running way over that config, atm, on my box on those same voltages/values (You can check actual voltages also on 'hardware info' page at BIOS to speed things up). Atm, running Prime95 myself so won't be booting in next 12 hours for sure.

-edit #2-

Hmm, if you get it stable please test it through memtest specifically Test #5 and Test #7 screens would be curious to check on stock 1066.

[GSKILL TECH]

Run the Everest memory test in the "Tools" tab and it will tell you exactly what the memory is operating at. In CPU-z make sure to look at the Memory tab, memory frequency should be 533MHz.

Otherwise anywhere else it will give you DDR2-800 or 400MHz since that is the JEDEC maximum standard for that motherboard.

Thank you
GSKILL SUPPORT

[nano0305]

in the Memory tab on CPU-Z, under DRAM Frequency it shows 534.3 MHz. So does on the memory test on Everest. Does this mean my memory is working at 1066MHz? Thats great. I still didnt make the changes that genetix told me on his last post? Should I still do them?
Thanks a lot for your help guys!

[GSKILL TECH]

Yep, DDR2-1066 for sure. If it is stable, you will not need to make the changes.

Thank you
GSKILL SUPPORT