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    Good day!
    Can you please tell me if non-EXPO memory will work as a normal mode at maximum settings if it's an XMP? I'm planning to upgrade to an X870E.
    So, the motherboard will be AMD, and the memory will be regular, not strictly EXPO, 2x32 6000 with RGB?
    Given the latest fashion trends, EXPO memory is 1.5 times more expensive than regular memory. Is there any information on how this will work?
    I apologize in advance if this question has been asked before, but I'm not a native speaker and combing through the entire forum is difficult. Thanks!

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    It should be no problem as long as the system can handle the specs. You can check the G.Skill RAM Configurator to see which specs have been tested capable for your motherboard model:

    https://www.gskill.com/configurator

    Use the latest BIOS for the motherboard as that will generally have the best results. If any issue, feel free to let us know.

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    • #3
      Greetings!
      I'm planning to purchase a PROART X870E-CREATOR WIFI AM5 AMD X870E, and... I thought you might have access to any memory of your brand, and at least one motherboard with the X870E chipset. So I decided to ask if the memory would simply run at the specified frequencies without regard to XMP or EXPO, i.e., with manual configuration.
      I've already had a bad experience with DDR3; they never failed to boot at XMP; the system always either crashed or showed a black screen with an endless loading screen.
      A little poetry: as it turns out, 11 months of torment weren't related to the memory configuration, but to the fact that I overlooked bent socket pins when purchasing it. Yes, that happens))) So, after 11 months of torment, the motherboard died!
      I'm planning to buy 2 x 32 TRIDENT Z RGB, so the main question is, which one will work without all those fancy features like XMP and EXPO, and which will simply run at the normal speed and timings advertised.
      P.S. I didn't find the memory I was looking at in the configurator; there are several types with different timings, and they're all missing from the configurator for this motherboard.
      Thanks for your attention!
      Another strange question: which timings are preferable in the memory abbreviation?
      And could this one be suitable - F5-8000J4048F24GX2-TZ5RK? no TZ5NR?
      Last edited by XORROR; 11-14-2025, 01:41 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by XORROR View Post
        Greetings!
        I'm planning to purchase a PROART X870E-CREATOR WIFI AM5 AMD X870E
        It looks like the ProArt X870E-Creator WIFI was only briefly tested with a small number of models, or it failed the compatibility testing with lot's of the typical AMD specifications. The other option would be that the list is still being updated. That is something only tech support would know, which you could contact directly via email.

        Originally posted by XORROR View Post
        So I decided to ask if the memory would simply run at the specified frequencies without regard to XMP or EXPO, i.e., with manual configuration.
        All models have standard profiles that the system defaults to, until either performance profile is enabled. So you don't necessarily have to get something special, if you want to manually overclock the memory anyways. Just ignore the performance profile then. The memory specifications can give you a hint about the DRAM type used and the overclocking potential, though.

        Originally posted by XORROR View Post
        I'm planning to buy 2 x 32 TRIDENT Z RGB, so the main question is, which one will work without all those fancy features like XMP and EXPO, and which will simply run at the normal speed and timings advertised.
        They can all work without XMP, however you won't be getting the advertised frequency or timings out of them, unless you either enable the performance profile or manually overclock them; both of which require the CPU & motherboard to be capable of that.

        Getting something without an EXPO (AMD standard) or XMP (Intel standard) at all, would severely limit the available options. That would only leave specifications straight from the JEDEC DDR5 standard, like DDR5-4800 CL40 or DDR5-5600 CL46 etc.

        If you care about performance at all and don't want to go down the manual overclocking route, in general you want EXPO enabled memory for an AMD motherboard. There are many other boards, that have been tested more thoroughly and are officially compatible with similar specs similar to those of the F5-8000J4048F24GX2-TZ5RK.

        https://www.gskill.com/qvl/165/390/1...4GX2-TZ5NR-QVL


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        • #5
          I took this one from the available G.Skill DDR5 64GB (2x32GB) 6000Mhz Trident Z5 Neo (F5-6000J3040G32GX2-TZ5NR) for about $460, now it costs 660+...
          I think it's M-Die chips. There's a lot of talk about it being worse than A-Die. Is that true or is it just different?

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          • #6
            Hello everyone!
            I hope the moderators won't delete my message)))
            Guys, I need some settings, well, not exactly "need," but after Googling, I realized that everyone is trying to lower the latency time. So I have a few key questions:
            1) Can anyone share ready-made presets for 6000 and 6400?
            2) Is it necessary to leave EXPO mode enabled for manual tuning? In EXPO mode, the RAM easily reaches 6400, but there are problems with passing TestMem5.
            3) Do I need to increase the CLDO VDDP parameter if it is <1 by default? Will this lead to failures and burnout? Often in manual tuning it is >1...

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