I am having a problem with using both F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM on a MSI 790FX-GD70. If you read below you can see the full details in the correspondence with I had with MSI regarding this which initially I thought it was the RAM then I thought it was a faulty motherboard. I sent the board in for RMA and today I was told there was nothing wrong with it as they have tested it and gotten RAM to work with it!?!
Could anyone suggest anything or give any experiences on a similar problem as I the only thing I can think of is that its a problem with the G.Skill RAM (not being fully compatible?) again. (even though I tried a different RAM stick and it didnt work either)
..I have seen there have been 2 BIOS updates by MSI since I sent the board in and I am planning to install the latest when I get the board back this weekend. Hopefully it will work finally then as I have now wasted ?20 extra in postage to be told the mobo is working fine!
Thanks
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11 Oct 2010
Hi
Thank you for your e-mail.
I have tested the Motherboard with a AMD Phenom II X4 965 4GB of DDR3 in 2x2 Modules and a ATI X300 and found that the motherboard POST's to display with RAM in banks 1 & 2 and also 3 & 4
As we cannot find a fault with the item there will be a ?5+VAT test fee and a ?5+VAT return P&P.
SW 26/09/10
Kindest Regards,
Eclipse Computers
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Posted: Aug 02, 2010 by Me
DIMM Slot issues
I have had this board since January 2010 and it has always refused to work with 2 RAM sticks (2 x 2GB) inserted in any combination of DIMM slots. I am able to use it with 1 RAM stick (2GB) but ONLY in DIMM2 and not in any other. If I attempt to use 2 of the RAM in any combination of DIMM slots, including 1 in the 2nd slot I get a message of FF on the LED Display.
I thought it might be a problem with the G.SKill RAM DDR3 PC3-12800 (F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM) so I tried 1 stick of cheap Samsung 1GB DDR3 PC3-10600 CL9 (M378B2873EH1-CH9) I bought off ebay at AUTO settings but this also only works in the 2nd RAM slot and gives the same FF error.
The G.Skill RAM works at default 1333 (FSBRAM=AUTO) and have tested the RAM with the official G.Skill published recommendations for these sticks in 1600 mode: DRAM Freq: 800, 8-8-8-24-1T, 1.60V, FSBRAM 1:4 which does not make any difference in operation but again neither setting enables me to insert 2 RAM sticks.
I am aware the G.Skill RAM is not on the official recommended RAM list for the GD70, however on looking at internet forums, G.Skill themselves say the RAM works on the GD70 and other GD70 users are able to use this combination of RAM and AMD CPU without issue; in addition, I have not been able to find anybody else mentioning the specific DIMM slot issues that I am experiencing.
Thus I have concluded that most likely the problem lies with the mainboard rather than the components and would like your opinion on this as I was planning to request an RMA.
Thanks
>Posted: Aug 02, 2010 by MSI
Dear Sir/Madam,
Thank you for contacting MSI Technical Support.
Regarding your concern, for 790FX-GD70, would you please set OC Dial to off to check?
If the issue persists, please unplug the power-cord and clear CMOS (How to clear CMOS. Please refer to the manual-->Hardware setup-->Jumpers-->Clear CMOS jumper for how to clear CMOS). Then enter BIOS setting by pressing the "DEL" key during POST, Load BIOS Setup Defaults/Load Optimized Defaults, and then save &exit check again. Please insert ram to DIMM1 first then DIMM2 to check.
Sorry for any inconvenience.
Best regards,
MSI Technical Support Team
>>Posted: Aug 17, 2010 by Me
Hi
I have tried the processes you have recommended to no avail. I had never activated or used the OC function so there was nothing to turn off or set to 0. Also neither clearing the CMOS (via the CLR CMOS button - I believe the 790FC-GD70 to be a jumperless board) or loading fail-safe/optimised defaults results in RAM being able to be used in DIMM1, still I am only able to use 1 stick of RAM in DIMM2.
Please advise further.
Thanks
>>>Posted: Aug 18, 2010 by MSI
Dear Sir/Madam,
Thank you for contacting MSI Technical Support.
Regarding your concern, would you please update to version 1.D bios from below link to check again?
You could refer to below link to know how to do bios update.
Sorry for any inconvenience.
Best regards,
MSI Technical Support Team
>>>>Posted: Aug 19, 2010 by Me
Hi
I had already updated to the 1.D BIOS about 2 weeks ago and it hasn't make any difference. Still when I try to use DIMM1 I just get the FF error on the motherboad LED readout.
Please advise further.
Thanks
>>>>>Posted: Aug 31, 2010 by MSI
Dear Sir/Madam,
Thank you for contacting MSI Technical Support.
Regarding your concern, it would be better to try to contact your reseller (the place you bought the board from) to check whether the DIMM1 slot damaged or not. If the reseller for some reason can not help, you could also try to contact MSI distributor near your place or MSI office.
Sorry for any inconvenience.
Best regards,
MSI Technical Support Team
Could anyone suggest anything or give any experiences on a similar problem as I the only thing I can think of is that its a problem with the G.Skill RAM (not being fully compatible?) again. (even though I tried a different RAM stick and it didnt work either)
..I have seen there have been 2 BIOS updates by MSI since I sent the board in and I am planning to install the latest when I get the board back this weekend. Hopefully it will work finally then as I have now wasted ?20 extra in postage to be told the mobo is working fine!
Thanks
---------
11 Oct 2010
Hi
Thank you for your e-mail.
I have tested the Motherboard with a AMD Phenom II X4 965 4GB of DDR3 in 2x2 Modules and a ATI X300 and found that the motherboard POST's to display with RAM in banks 1 & 2 and also 3 & 4
As we cannot find a fault with the item there will be a ?5+VAT test fee and a ?5+VAT return P&P.
SW 26/09/10
Kindest Regards,
Eclipse Computers
--------------------
Posted: Aug 02, 2010 by Me
DIMM Slot issues
I have had this board since January 2010 and it has always refused to work with 2 RAM sticks (2 x 2GB) inserted in any combination of DIMM slots. I am able to use it with 1 RAM stick (2GB) but ONLY in DIMM2 and not in any other. If I attempt to use 2 of the RAM in any combination of DIMM slots, including 1 in the 2nd slot I get a message of FF on the LED Display.
I thought it might be a problem with the G.SKill RAM DDR3 PC3-12800 (F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM) so I tried 1 stick of cheap Samsung 1GB DDR3 PC3-10600 CL9 (M378B2873EH1-CH9) I bought off ebay at AUTO settings but this also only works in the 2nd RAM slot and gives the same FF error.
The G.Skill RAM works at default 1333 (FSBRAM=AUTO) and have tested the RAM with the official G.Skill published recommendations for these sticks in 1600 mode: DRAM Freq: 800, 8-8-8-24-1T, 1.60V, FSBRAM 1:4 which does not make any difference in operation but again neither setting enables me to insert 2 RAM sticks.
I am aware the G.Skill RAM is not on the official recommended RAM list for the GD70, however on looking at internet forums, G.Skill themselves say the RAM works on the GD70 and other GD70 users are able to use this combination of RAM and AMD CPU without issue; in addition, I have not been able to find anybody else mentioning the specific DIMM slot issues that I am experiencing.
Thus I have concluded that most likely the problem lies with the mainboard rather than the components and would like your opinion on this as I was planning to request an RMA.
Thanks
>Posted: Aug 02, 2010 by MSI
Dear Sir/Madam,
Thank you for contacting MSI Technical Support.
Regarding your concern, for 790FX-GD70, would you please set OC Dial to off to check?
If the issue persists, please unplug the power-cord and clear CMOS (How to clear CMOS. Please refer to the manual-->Hardware setup-->Jumpers-->Clear CMOS jumper for how to clear CMOS). Then enter BIOS setting by pressing the "DEL" key during POST, Load BIOS Setup Defaults/Load Optimized Defaults, and then save &exit check again. Please insert ram to DIMM1 first then DIMM2 to check.
Sorry for any inconvenience.
Best regards,
MSI Technical Support Team
>>Posted: Aug 17, 2010 by Me
Hi
I have tried the processes you have recommended to no avail. I had never activated or used the OC function so there was nothing to turn off or set to 0. Also neither clearing the CMOS (via the CLR CMOS button - I believe the 790FC-GD70 to be a jumperless board) or loading fail-safe/optimised defaults results in RAM being able to be used in DIMM1, still I am only able to use 1 stick of RAM in DIMM2.
Please advise further.
Thanks
>>>Posted: Aug 18, 2010 by MSI
Dear Sir/Madam,
Thank you for contacting MSI Technical Support.
Regarding your concern, would you please update to version 1.D bios from below link to check again?
You could refer to below link to know how to do bios update.
Sorry for any inconvenience.
Best regards,
MSI Technical Support Team
>>>>Posted: Aug 19, 2010 by Me
Hi
I had already updated to the 1.D BIOS about 2 weeks ago and it hasn't make any difference. Still when I try to use DIMM1 I just get the FF error on the motherboad LED readout.
Please advise further.
Thanks
>>>>>Posted: Aug 31, 2010 by MSI
Dear Sir/Madam,
Thank you for contacting MSI Technical Support.
Regarding your concern, it would be better to try to contact your reseller (the place you bought the board from) to check whether the DIMM1 slot damaged or not. If the reseller for some reason can not help, you could also try to contact MSI distributor near your place or MSI office.
Sorry for any inconvenience.
Best regards,
MSI Technical Support Team
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