ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe and Ripjaws DDR3-1600

[GSKILL TECH]

FSB Frequency needs to be 400, CPU FSB 1600MHz, and it must be stable for the memory to operate at DDR3-1600.

Thank you
GSKILL TECH

[MarkiMeerkat]

F3-10666CL7Q-16GB on ASUS P5Q3

Hi all

Epic fail... Writing from iPad!

Mobo P5Q3 deluxe BIOS 2105 (latest) max 16Gb & XMP support;
CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 never o'clocked
Today upgraded from GEiL 4Gb (2 x 2Gb) DDR3 to the new G.Skill 16Gb (4 x 4GB) kit F3-10666CL7-16GBXH.

All auto settings, immediate blue screen at first startup on both Win7 Pro and Server 2008 (dual boot).

I do realize both OS are 32bit and I have the 64 bit versions ready to install, to overcome the >4GB limitation... but that should not stop the OS from booting up, right? Just wanted to test memory in PC first...

Then enabled XMP in Bios with all on auto (7,7,7,21 1.5v)... BSOD.
Then set CPU voltage between 1.35 & 1.4v... BSOD.
Then raised NB voltage by .02v... BSOD.

Not being familiar with all intricacies of DRAM timings, a bit lost... Anyone willing to help?

Many thanks in advance

[GSKILL TECH]

Don't use XMP, use manual settings. Just make sure DRAM Frequency is DDR3-1333, DRAM Timings tCL 7 - tRCD 7 - tRP 7 - tRAS 24, DRAM Voltage 1.50V

If you still have a problem, test one module at a time with these settings to make sure they all perform the same one at a time. If they do, post some advanced timings so I can see if BIOS is detecting anythign incorrectly.

Thank you
GSKILL TECH

[MarkiMeerkat]

Testing continues..

Hi and thanks, GSKILL Tech!

Update: have set "manual" in the AI overclock page and set as instructed. All modules inserted, BSOD on boot up, it's the "hardware problem and windows has shut down to prevent..." type message (had to take a video to frame stop and read it!).

Have tested each individual stick in the A1 slot and ran AIDA64 and CPUID, got the SPD report .txt files to pass on, not sure if you want me to copy and paste data or upload files somewhere.

Now will continue testing with 2 modules at a time (Dual Channel) and see what happens...

Sorry to insist, are we sure both OS's are not having a cow because of any silly PHY limits? AIDA did list PAE as available and supported by OS and CPU, but it reported not active on the memory modules...

Confused

UPDATE: ran with two modules in A1 and B1 and works AOK with both Win7 Pro (32) and Server 2008 SP1 (32); interestingly, I have re-enabled PAE in both OS - following M$ instructions - and got a "operation successful", but AIDA still reports the PAE as available but not active. System does show 8GB present (3.25GB usable) as to be expected, tough I thought PAE may have made a difference.

If I insert the remaining 2 dimms for a total of 16GB I immediately get BSOD... what can I do?

[GSKILL TECH]

Did you test the remaining 2 DIMMs by themselves? If they work just fine, try raising NB Voltage to see if the memory controller is slightly unstable with full slots.

Thank you
GSKILL TECH

[MarkiMeerkat]

Hi Tech and thanks for continued help.

I needed to use the pc so have have been running it with 8GB, rock solid; will test the other two dimms on their own later today; in the meantime I have raised the NB voltage by 0.14 as suggested by Tradesman to 1.24v (standard was 1.1v).

Also, AIDA now states PAE is active on both OS's, but the usable RAM is still 3.25GB.

Then this morning I decided to try a different tack: I connected a brand new Vertex3 SSD and set it up as boot disk from BIOS then, using a genuine Win7 Pro 64bit installation disk, I tried to install the OS with all 4 dimms in and the full 16GB of DDR3.

Well, I am sorry to report that I got a blue screen right at the beginning of the install process, after "Windows is loading files" was complete. The blue screen was again "a problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer" and the error was *** STOP:0x0000007E etc.

Also, I noticed AIDA64 reports these timings for the dimms:

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Memory Timings:
@ 609 MHz 8-8-8-22 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 30-98-4-10-5-5 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 533 MHz 7-7-7-20 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 27-86-4-8-4-4 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 457 MHz 6-6-6-17 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 23-74-3-7-4-4 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)

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Whilst CPUID reports like this:

Timings table
Frequency (MHz) 457 533 610 686
CAS# 6.0 7.0 8.0 9.0
RAS# to CAS# delay 6 7 9 10
RAS# Precharge 6 7 9 10
TRAS 17 20 22 25
TRC 23 27 30 34

XMP revision 1.2

XMP profile XMP-1334
Specification PC3-10700
Voltage level 1.500 Volts
Min Cycle time 1.500 ns (667 MHz)
Min tRP 10.50 ns
Min tRCD 10.50 ns
Min tWR 15.00 ns
Min tRAS 31.50 ns
Min tRC 42.50 ns
Min tRFC 180.00 ns
Min tRTP 7.50 ns
Min tRRD 6.00 ns
Command Rate 2T

Timings table
Frequency (MHz) 700
CAS# 7.0
RAS# to CAS# delay 8
RAS# Precharge 8
TRAS 23
TRC 30

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Not sure if that tells you anything interesting...

[MarkiMeerkat]

No good news...

Unfortunately, no matter how I position the 4 sticks in the slots, no matter if I use 7-8-8-24 timings (as recommended by CPUID), no matter raising the NB voltage to 1.24v and 1.26v, both OS's will not start up: I get blue screens or, at best, enter the OS and get a blue screen shortly thereafter.

I cannot run this 16GB kit in my system; happy to get further advice to help me out, but I am getting a little impatient.

Tradesman, you seemed to think it would have worked, do you have any further insight?

My reasoning is: if the 32bit OS is working fine with 8GB (yet only "seeing" and addressing 3.25GB which is a known limitation of the M$ licence) and even with 12GB (I have tried to use only 3 sticks) why would it not work with 16GB?!?

I have tested the individual sticks, no probs.

Then I tested the various pair combinations; I had no issues except when I placed two sticks both on "Channel 2" (A2 & B2) of the motherboard: I then got blue screens, but I suspect that may be a non supported memory configuration, right?

As mentioned, I even had three sticks in place, a pair in Channel 1 (A1 & B1) and the third stick in the first slot of the second channel (A2) and BIOS and OS acknowledged there were 12GB.

So I am at a loss as to what to think and do: I am ready to upgrade the OS's to 64bit, but I have tried a clean install with 16GB and got a blue screen. Admittedly, the motherboard manual does state support for 16GB is only under a 64bit OS, so maybe I should use 8GB to install Win7 64bit and only then install the other 8GB. Will report on that shortly.

[GSKILL TECH]

Feel free to send them in for a new kit to see if that works better.

Thank you
GSKILL TECH

[MarkiMeerkat]

Feel free to send them in for a new kit to see if that works better.

Thank you
GSKILL TECH

No worries, am trying some other solutions at the moment, fiddling with settings and trying a modded BIOS for the Asus board (out of warranty) and then if no luck at all, I will RMA.

Will report back soon, thanks!

[MarkiMeerkat]

MemTest

Well, decided to perform some testing with MemTest86+.

With all 4 DIMMs inserted I can only get clean a pass leaving AI on auto, with 9-9-9-24.

As soon as I go to XMP or manual settings with 7-7-7-24 - as recommended by Tradesman and GskillTech - I get immediate errors on pretty much all tests and memory levels. And this even raising NB voltages in small steps to 1.35.

The kit is labelled CL7, so I am correct assuming they are defective and need replacement?

Would I be better off buying a 17000CL9 kit so I can definitely get them to run at 1333 on CL7?

[GSKILL TECH]

Test one module at a time with rated specifications to see if any pass.

Thank you
GSKILL TECH

[wingo]

Ooops, seems like the thread moved forward a bit - I just wanted to log in and check (complain ) if any new insights came up with my issue...

...doesn't really seem like it did?!

I might try a similar aproach (testing one stick at a time) but it might be a while until I get to doing this since this is my work computer and running tests like this (with low expectations for any new results that might help solving my problem) is rather time consuming...

Cheers
S

[Tradesman]

Let us know what happens

[MarkiMeerkat]

Problems again G.Skill 16GB kit

GSkillTech and Tradesman hello again

I have been running the G.Skill 16Gb (4 x 4GB) kit F3-10666CL7-16GBXH 16GB kit for a few months now, but the only I could make it run was at CL9 and very relaxed settings.

The only problem since installing this kit are random "Event 41 - Task 43" (bugcheckcode 0), which is interesting, as this kernel error (and immediate reboot) never happened before and has since occurred on all OS installed on the machine. But I lived with it.

I unfortunately never took the time to note down the BIOS settings, so when I bought a new case yesterday and moved the components across, I decided to put a new CMOS battery in and.... You guessed it, had to reset all BIOS settings and have not been able to reboot in any of the OS with the full 16GB!

Looked at this entire thread and tried everything: for GSkillTech's benefit I have indeed tested all 4 sticks one at the time with Manual - DDR1333 - 7-7-7-24 and 1.5V in DRAM voltage, then slowly raised the NB voltage till the yellow values... No luck.

The OS does not boot up (stuck on animated colored windows in Win7) or gives a BSOD a few seconds into the startup screen (green worm in Server 2008).

Last time GSkillTech asked for "additional advanced timings" to see what the motherboard sees, so here they are:

All settings on Auto except:
DRAM Freq: DDR3-1333
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS Latency: 7
DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 7
DRAM RAS Precharge: 7
DRAM RAS Activate to Precha: 7
DRAM Voltage: 1.50V
NB Voltage: 1.20V

In grey (system info, no user input)
1st Info: 7-7-7-24-4-78-10-5
2nd Info: 8-5-6-4-7-4-7
3rd Info: 21-7-1-8-8

I am here to ask a straight answer: since the kit is CL7 is the inability to boot up with all 4 modules at anything less than CL9 considered a kit deficiency or a motherboard incompatibility?

If I were to RMA the kit, do I have to get the same kit back or can I upgrade to the 12800 or even the 16000? After all, I am after a stable CL7 16GB Kit, as that is what I bought in the first place.

[Tradesman]

I'd lean towards the mobo itself and support for it, teh latest BIOS predates Win7, (7/3/09), the current DRAM QVL is dated 11/28/08), the mobo itself (and associated chips) date back to 10/2008) and the only thing I saw in 1333/16GB was CL9 sets, the best available for 1600 sticks is 8GB total....This is something that has long irked me, where mobo makers advertise the mobos as say 16GB max or speeds of say 1600, but even in their QVL they never say how it was tested (i.e. they generally use the highest end CPU available, which can often provide OCs that help with higher freq DRAM, they also don't provide voltages which oft times get very high to sets of sticks, etc just to put 'magic' figures on the box proclaiming 16GB and 1600 freq DRAM as maxes.....some 775 mobos can run 16GB but only up to 800 or 1066 yet the mobo itself might run 1600 sticks yet only up to 4-8GB