Trident Z RGB AM4 Compatibility

[G.SKILL]

tyrluk,

From a technical point of view, there's a slight difference between the Flare X and non-Flare X version, such that the non-Flare X versions of the 3200MHz CL14 kits may have a small chance of not able to reach that speed with Ryzen 7 processor and a corresponding motherboard.

Aside from that, there's also the rare possibility that a Ryzen 7 processor might have a weak IMC so that it has trouble supporting high memory frequencies at 3200MHz.

But without further testing with your specific processor and kit combination, it'd be hard to say which is the cause. You can always try another 3200 kit, and if you hit the same errors or inability to hit 3200MHz, then it's more likely the IMC.

[tyrluk]

We'll double check with the engineers on this. Seems like something might have changed recently on the motherboard or CPU side that may cause this issue.

So you're using the 1700, not the 1700X?

Yes, I am using the Ryzen 1700.

Another thought is S.Skill sells the Flare X kits (for AMD) as DDR4-3200. The specs on those look identical to the TridentZ RGB (14-14-14-34). I do not see any reference there that you may not be able to reach 3200MHz if you are using a Ryzen 1700. What is different about those kits that would allow you to hit 3200MHz?

[G.SKILL]

We'll double check with the engineers on this. Seems like something might have changed recently on the motherboard or CPU side that may cause this issue.

So you're using the 1700, not the 1700X?

[tyrluk]

Hi Tyrluk,

You can try an RMA replacement kit, but if the same occurs with the second kit, then you'd probably have to explore possible RMA with either motherboard or processor.

So far, our test setups passes with the latest BIOS. We usually recommend all default + manual DRAM Frequency/Voltage/CL timing (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS) and command rate to 2 if it's available.

Maybe you can also try out one module at a time with just the rate settings in manual, and see if each of the modules can get to 3200MHz CL14.

I have already tried running one module at a time but that made no difference. Already emailed G.Skill tech support and that was the first thing they suggested.

Over on the 850+ page overclock.net thread there are quite a few people who are having the same issue with getting this same memory working at 3200MHz.

I did get a response from G.Skill which may lead to something here with the 1700 just being unable to do 3200MHz memory reliably. See the question and response from my email with G.Skill below --

Tyrluk: Are you aware of any issue with the Ryzen CPU integrated memory controller where they would *not* be able to run the memory at 3200MHz?
G.Skill: Yes, generally the 1800X or 1700X is required for DDR4-3200.

But then when I talk to AMD and ASUS support they both say that the Ryzen 1700 integrated memory controller can easily handle well up to DDR4-3600.

Would be great to know what the root cause of this memory issue is -- for both G.Skill support and their customers.

[G.SKILL]

Hi Tyrluk,

You can try an RMA replacement kit, but if the same occurs with the second kit, then you'd probably have to explore possible RMA with either motherboard or processor.

So far, our test setups passes with the latest BIOS. We usually recommend all default + manual DRAM Frequency/Voltage/CL timing (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS) and command rate to 2 if it's available.

Maybe you can also try out one module at a time with just the rate settings in manual, and see if each of the modules can get to 3200MHz CL14.

[tyrluk]

I have the F4-3200C14D-16GTZR kit and cannot run at 3200MHz on my Ryzen 1700.

I have the G.Skill Trident Z RGB 2x8GB 3200MHz CL14 kit with part number F4-3200C14D-16GTZR. These are running on my ASUS C6H board with a Ryzen 1700. Memory modules have the serial number where digit five starts A500 so supposedly they are Samsung B-Die.

So far I have been unable to get 3200MHz stable with any timings, voltages, 1T/2T, and every beta UEFI released to date (including 1001, 1002, 0079, 0081, 0082, 0083).

I have reset UEFI to defaults, no other overclocking, and tried to set memory both via DOCP and manual. Also tried setting DRAM voltage & boot voltage to 1.45v, SoC to 1.2v, loosened memory timings to 18-18-18-38, tried ProcODT up to 80, etc. I have tried one change at a time and then multiple changes together. Nothing works for 3200MHz -- the system just attempts training, fails with code 0d, reboots, and resets to 2133MHz.

Running the kit at 2933MHz with its rated timings of 14-14-14-34 and 1.35v works great -- no issues at all.

[mele]

I have this kit running at 3200 14-14-14-14-34-1T 1.352v, GSkill F4-3200C14-16GTZR.

Bios 1002 Settings:
Asus C6H Ryzen 1700
Blck 100.
Multiplier 38
D.O.C.P. - Standard
Vcore Manual Offset + 0.1625
VDDSOC Manual Offset + 0.1625
DRAM 1.365
Everything else on Auto

[G.SKILL]

Biostar B350GT5 does not support 3200MHz CL16 speed memory kits yet. We would recommend specs that are the same as the ones offered in FORTIS or Flare X series.

[CrabbyR]

Stuck at 2133 so far

I have a B350GT5 biostar board with 2 single rank 8 gig sticks of F4-3200C16-8GTZKY Trident z
, so far I have not been able to budge them from 2133 without a three beep post code, anyone have any feedback? It`s a 1700 processor

[Wmunn]

I know that the F4-3200C16D-16GTZR kit doesn't seem to play nice with the AM4 platform, specifically on my MSI x370 titanium board. This kit contains the SK Hynix ram chips, which from what I have heard, is known to have issues with the Ryzen platform.

[georgeh9516]

For what it is worth I put the 3000mhz RGB 14-14-14-14-34 memory in an Asus Crosshair VI motherboard with overclock to 3200mhz with SOC at 1.05volts and dram voltage at 1.375volts. Using the latest 0905 bios and it is rock solid. I used timings of 15-15.15.15-37.

[Neokolzia]

"I can neither confirm nor deny details of any operation without the Secretary's approval."

Just kidding. We really don't know, since we don't have access to those details here. And since we use various different chips in production, it'd be hard to say.

If you're using those 3200Mhz CL16s on an AMD Ryzen platform, you might have trouble getting compatibility until it's improved on the AMD side of things.

I've been following a thread on Overclock.net I recieved a Email saying Rest assured that the modules aren't damaged, from running them in Ryzen Systems.

But people have had modules Destroyed now and no longer function beyond the LED's ceasing to function.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1625238/h...emory-problems

These are all people running on the Gigabyte motherboard, attempting to Enable XMP. This also Effected EVGA 3200mhz memory. (youtube comments section of video in thread)

[G.SKILL]

"I can neither confirm nor deny details of any operation without the Secretary's approval."

Just kidding. We really don't know, since we don't have access to those details here. And since we use various different chips in production, it'd be hard to say.

If you're using those 3200Mhz CL16s on an AMD Ryzen platform, you might have trouble getting compatibility until it's improved on the AMD side of things.

[jon666]

Hmm...picked up the 3200C16's. Are the 14D's the B dies everyone talks about?

[G.SKILL]

We just asked engineering, and if you're looking to use Trident Z RGB on the AMD X370 chipset motherboards and Ryzen 7 series CPU, then you can consider one of the following:

F4-2400C15D-16GTZR
F4-2400C15Q-32GTZR
F4-3200C14D-16GTZR

Please note that 3200MHz CL14 is only compatible with the 8GBx2 capacity configuration, and 8GBx4 is not recommended.

Thank you!